Polystrate Fossils -- evidence against millions of years

CMIcreationstation 📤 5 years ago 2013-05-07

Most people are under the impression that coal forms slowly in swamps over millions of years. But this view neglects the testimony of tree trunk fossils that cut across many coal layers, known as polystrate fossils. If these tree trunks were buried gradually over thousands of years the top parts of the trees would have rotted away before they could be protected by sediment.

Derek Ager, Professor of Geology at University College of Swansea recognized this when he wrote of trees buried in coal seams, 'If one estimates the total thickness of the British Coal Measures as about 1,000 m, laid down in about 10 million years, then, assuming a constant rate of sedimentation, it would have taken 100,000 years to bury a tree 10 m high, which is ridiculous'.

He then went on to say, 'we cannot escape the conclusion that sedimentation was at times very rapid indeed'.

So the slow-swamp-story should itself be laid to rest.

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How Creationism Taught Me Real Science 04 Polystrate Trees

Tony Reed 📤 4 years ago 2014-11-21

This episode looks at those annoying facts of the geological world known as polystrate trees.

References:

The Creationist Argument
http://www.icr.org/article/classic-polystrate-fossil/
http://creation.com/polystrate-fossils-evidence-for-a-young-earth
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=213

Pennsylvanian 'fossil forests' in growth position (T° assemblages): origin, taphonomic bias and palaeoecological insights
https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/15971/paleo_2011_DiMichele_Falcon_Lang_T0Assemblages_JGeolSoc.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Role of evaporite withdrawal in the preservation of a unique coal-bearing succession: Pennsylvanian Joggins Formation, Nova Scotia
http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/33/5/337.abstract

Transpression and transtension along a continental transform fault:Minas Fault Zone, Nova Scotia
http://dalspace.library.dal.ca/bitstream/handle/10222/53771/AGS%2333_FieldTripB7MinasFaultZone.pdf?sequence=1

Erect Forests Are Evidence for Coseismic Base-level Changes in Pennsylvanian Cyclothems of the Black Warrior Basin, U.S.A.
http://personal.colby.edu/~ragastal/RAG_reprints/RAG2004d.pdf

Early Mississippian lycopsid forests in a delta-plain setting at Norton, near Sussex, New Brunswick, Canada
http://jgs.geoscienceworld.org/content/161/6/969.abstract

Regenerative growth in fossil horsetails following burial by alluvium
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10292389209380429#.VO4VqvnF9rE

Burial of trees by eruptions of Mount St Helens, Washington:implications for the interpretation of fossil forests
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=4481528

Buried Forests Could Provide Clues to Past
http://www.academia.edu/3161345/Buried_Forests_Could_Provide_Clues_to_Past_Louisiana_

A buried spruce forest provides evidence at the stand and landscape scale for the effects of environment on vegetation at the Pleistocene/Holocene boundary
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2745.2000.00432.x/abstract

Basic information of trees becoming polystrate in glacial areas:
http://www.museum.state.il.us/muslink/forest/htmls/how_bury.html
http://www.admin.mtu.edu/urel/breaking/2000/forest.html
http://web2.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/chippewa.html qabalaHCTMRS04

Polystrate Trees | Upright Trees Are Evidence of Catastrophe | David Rives

David Rives Ministries 📤 4 years ago 2014-08-31

Recently, while researching examples of flood geology, I heard about a particular fossilized tree in northern TN. After several weeks of trying to track it down, I was finally able to visit the site. The side of a mountain had been blasted away to uncover a coal seam, and what was discovered there was a very well preserved fossilized lycopod tree. This specimen was so pristine that in the 1970s, one issue of National Geographic featured photos of the tree in an article.

After travelling up to the area on a rainy day, the remoteness of the location was apparent from the lack of civilization as we got closer to the site. Ruins of the old coal mining operation could be seen scattered along the hillside. A rough ride in a 4 wheel drive up to the end of the road, and then a long hike over streams and through brambles brought us to the site.

There, perfectly preserved, was the massive fossil, and with it, many other fossilized examples of these trees.

Although similar to the modern horse-tail, these lycopod specimens are much larger than anything that currently exists.

But there are a few things that make these very significant. Besides the excellent preservation, even down to the texture of the leaflet pods along the trunk, the first thing that stands out is the fact that these trees are fossilized in the UPRIGHT position! The second and most significant feature is the fact that these trees can be seen extending through multiple layers of strata!

If a secular geologist saw the same layers of strata anywhere else, they would conclude that each layer was laid down slowly over time, taking several million years for what we see here to be laid down through gradual deposition, then lithified, or turned to stone.

But wait! How could a tree remain upright for millions of years while sediment slowly builds up around the trunk, preserving it from decay?

There is only one way to explain what is seen at this site and other similar sites all around the world… Catastrophism.
Even most atheistic geologists will admit that this has to be the case. A tree simply CANNOT stand upright for the amount of time suggested by evolutionary timeframes.

There was a catastrophic event that we read about in the Biblical record which would account for precisely what we find here in northern Tennessee. The great flood in Noah’s day that would have uprooted vegetation, reshaped the continents, and buried a vast number of animals and plants extremely quickly underneath thousands of layers of sediment.

In some cases, root structure can be found, like this stigmaria (or root segment) I’m holding, while in other specimens, it appears as if the trees may have simply been snapped off by force, again, fitting with the account of the fierce global deluge described in the book of Genesis.

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Creation Has Answers 2016 Series - Geologic Column: Polystrate Fossils

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Creation Today Claims - Polystrate Trees

Paulogia 📤 2 years ago 2016-12-14

Do upright fossilized trees demolish the idea of an old earth? Eric Hovind's Creation Today show welcomes Australian creationist John Mackay to discuss the so-called polystrate trees or polystrate fossils.

I am personally completely swayed by anything said in an Australian accent. Doesn’t matter if it’s Russell Crowe, Cate Blanchett, Keith Urban, Iggy Azalea, Michelle Jenneke or even Ken Ham.

While Eric Hovind gawks, John Mackay argues that these polystrate trees are evidence that the world cannot be millions (or billions) of years old. How did these fossils end up standing upright through multiple strata of the earth?

Or was this mystery solved in Joggins, Nova Scotia back in 1868?

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Fossil layers DO NOT support evolution and Darwin's tree of life

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Earth's rarest and ancient fossils | BBC

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A five-hour drive out of Adelaide in Australia takes Dr Iain Stewart to the site of some of Earth's rarest and most ancient fossils. Once a thriving ocean, 600 million years ago it was home to the Ediacarans, the first multi-cell creatures on Earth. Fascinating clip taken from the BBC natural history series Earth: The Power of the Planet. Visit http://www.bbcearth.com for all the latest animal news and wildlife videos and watch more high quality videos on the new BBC Earth YouTube channel here: http://www.youtube.com/bbcearth

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Polystrate Fossils? Evolution wrong again!

Josh Sketo 📤 10 years ago 2008-06-05

Polystrate fossils are found extending through multiple layers of
sediment. Many trees have been found fossilized in a vertical
position through layers of coal, sandstone, and other sediments.
Certainly, the trees would have decayed if millions of years had
occurred between the different strata.
Geologists fail to accept that the only reasonable explanation of
polystrate fossils is that the layers formed quickly around plant and
animal life before they had time to decay. Seems to correspond with
the Biblical account of the worldwide flood, doesn't it?
See the Creation Seminar Series parts 4 and 6 for more information
and pictures on this topic. Visit www.drdino.com for more pictures of
these trees.

40 MILLION year-old stone tree

BetterGeology 📤 1 year ago 2017-07-30

Hidden in the canyons of Central Oregon, the Hancock Tree stands tall as a monument to ancient Oregon. It is located within the Clarno Unit of John Day Fossil Beds National Monument (near Fossil, Oregon), and the lack of easy access to this location allows it and the multitude of nearby fossils to be fully enjoyed. The Clarno Mudflows (including the Pallisades Mudflows) contain one of the greatest wealths of leaf and food fossils in the John Day Group of formations. It is very important to remember that if you find it, it is an irreplaceable piece of Earth's history, and that collecting within the monument boundaries is very strictly illegal. Please respect it as you would art in a museum; as this is the art of the earth, in the museum of Oregon.

Very special thanks to the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry and the staff of Hancock Field Station.

Digging for Fern Fossils: Saint Clair, Pennsylvania

DigDigDig 📤 4 years ago 2014-10-10

Collecting Carboniferous fossil plant specimens at an old coal strip mine in PA.

Dinosaur blood and polystrate trees debunked

Potholer54debunks 📤 8 years ago 2010-05-05

Sources quoted in this video:

"Heme compounds in dinosaur Trabecular bone" -- Schweitzer, et al., Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, June 1997

Soft-tissue vessels and Cellular preservation in Tyrranosaurus Rex Schweitzer et al., Science 2005

Biomolecular Characterization and Protein Sequences of the Campanian Hadrosaur B. canadensis Schweitzer et al., Science, May 2009

The Geological Structure, Organic Remains, and Mineral Resources of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island -- Dawson, J.W., 1868. Acadian Geology., Published by MacMillan and Co.

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The Earth is 6000 Years Old - Atheist Experience

Valsyrie 📤 7 years ago 2011-11-23

A young-earth creationist calls in and gives really bad arguments to back up his beliefs.

From episode 732 of the Atheist Experience

Petrified trees through many layers!

Ftureman 📤 9 years ago 2009-10-04

How can petrified trees stand through MANY geological column?
If the layers are expressions of different periods and millions of year, is this then possible?
And is petrified tings an expression of millions of years?
Kent Hovind has some thoughts on this.

Everything About Petrified Wood

Everything Nature 📤 3 years ago 2015-05-30

Petrified wood is one of my favorite fossils and also one of the most recognizable ones but not all petrified is the same. Depending on where its from, the species of tree, and the environment while its fossilizing, it can come in an assortment of colors, shapes and textures.

Excavating Triassic Fossils in Antarctica -- Antarctica Video Report #7

Field Museum 📤 7 years ago 2011-02-04

Fellow Antarctica expedition team members Chris Sidor, Adam Huttenlocker, and Roger Smith excavate Triassic amphibian and reptile fossils from the Fremouw Formation on Graphite Peak. This is the seventh in a series of video reports documenting the team's daily life and fieldwork during their expedition to Antarctica. Feel free to post any questions you might have by February 9th, and Pete and Nate will answer the top five FAQs in their written dispatches. To receive these dispatches via email, sign-up today at http://enews.fieldmuseum.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Expedition_Pete_Makovicky

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Why Don't All Skeletons Become Fossils?

BrainStuff - HowStuffWorks 📤 2 years ago 2016-02-09

Skeletons of ancient animals sometimes become fossilized. But if this happened to every animal that ever lived, wouldn’t we be swimming in a sea of fossils right now? BrainStuff explains why only a fraction of animal bones turn into fossils.

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Hey Brainstuff -- it’s me, Jonathan. You know, sometimes in a lull between events at CES I’m digging a six-foot hole in the middle of the desert outside Las Vegas and I start to wonder: Where are all the dead animals? Shouldn’t we be wading knee-deep in fossils every time we go outside?

You can probably guess that not every animal that dies leaves behind fossil evidence.

But why is that?

Just to get our terms straight, a fossil is any physical remnant left behind by an organism that died long ago. In many cases, fossils might only be things like preserved footprints or nest sites. But today, we’re looking at direct remains of animal bodies, like bones.

The likelihood that any particular animal body will become fossilized is amazingly small, way less than 1%. You might as well buy a lottery ticket.

So let’s look at the stations of the obstacle course to fossilization:

First, there’s body type. Fossilization has a strong preference for animals with hard body parts, like bones, teeth and shells. Animals with soft bodies, like slugs and jellyfish, will usually just decompose completely and disappear after death.

The second main hurdle to fossilization is exposure. To become a fossil, you need to be one of the rare animal bodies that is rapidly buried soon after the animal dies. This is most likely to happen in or near the site of a moving body of water, like a river or a flood plain, where runoff, floodwaters or regular flow may quickly cover a dead body in sediment.

It might also happen in arid desert settings, where wind can quickly bury animal remains in sand dunes. If the remains are not rapidly buried, scavenging animals are likely to scatter and consume them -- after all, nature hates to pass up a free lunch. We're alike in that way. And even a clean skeleton left out exposed to the elements will eventually be erased by decalcification, erosion and corrosion.

But let’s say your bones are lucky enough to be rapidly buried somehow. The next big hurdle is the sediment itself. A nice dry sand or alkaline mud might be a good place to become a fossil. But if your bones are buried in soil with a higher temperature and higher acidity, your prospects are a lot slimmer.

Acidic environments (meaning soils with a low pH) tend to dissolve hydroxyapatite -- a calcium phosphate mineral that is a main structural ingredient in our bones. So, many soil types on Earth will simply destroy all the bones they swallow.

I'm counting on it. (I kid, I kid)

But even in friendly sediment, over a long enough period of time, bones can break down. The organic proteins in bones, like collagen, eventually decompose, and the inorganic minerals in bones can be crushed, dissolved or otherwise destroyed by physical forces over the centuries.

So if you want your actual bone structure to survive, you have to be lucky enough to undergo a little transformation. Most really ancient bones we find, such as dinosaur bones, aren’t the unaltered, original bones that were buried millions of years ago, but either minerally modified versions of those bones, or “stone photocopies.”

Two processes represent the majority of these cases: permineralization, and replacement.

In permineralization, mineral-rich water seeps into the buried bones and fills the pores of the bones with its mineral content. These minerals form crystals inside the bones, causing them to modify and harden over time. Sometimes this process is also called “petrification.”

In “replacement,” the original bones can be completely dissolved, but still leave fossil copies, as the minerals in the groundwater completely replace the shape of the bones over long periods of time.

So let’s say you’re the rare dead animal that wins the fossilization lottery, and you just happen to pass ALL these tests? You still have to be found.

The total surface of the Earth is almost 200 million square miles, and even for a guy like me, there’s only so much time to dig.

SOURCES:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-are-the-odds-of-a-de/

http://www.livescience.com/37781-how-do-fossils-form-rocks.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/fossils

https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/taphonomy-what-happens-to-bones-after-death/

http://www.weather.com/science/news/flesh-bone-what-role-weather-plays-body-decomposition-20131031

http://www.donaldprothero.com/files/47440594.pdf

Claire's Geology Brief No. 2: Polystrate Trees

WildwoodClaire1 📤 4 years ago 2014-04-29

I address so-called "polystrate trees," fossils frequently cited by YECs who mistakenly believe (or pretend to believe) that geologists claim every single sedimentary layer on the planet was laid down slowly, over millions of years.

Geology Brief No. 1 (The Cambrian Explosion): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TddI-HbmrAU
Geology Brief No. 2 (Polystrate Trees): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is25-UrJvR4
Geology Brief No. 3 (Living Fossils): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OPYz3j8M1E
Geology Brief No. 4 (Index Fossils): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu7ChHspMt4
Geology Brief No. 5 (Fossils on Mountaintops): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuiWfq5qsxA
Geology Brief No. 6 (Carbon 14 in Coal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAJjMa0te04
Geology Brief No. 7 (Unconformities): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvCAAaAf9Ks
Geology Brief No. 8 (Chemtrails): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYaptu5MTQs
Geology Brief No. 9 (Expanding Earth): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDWzF1XhJU
Geology Brief No. 10 (The Dinosaur Hunter vs. the Congress): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf8emZD78Lo
Geology Brief No. 11 (Eric van Däniken "explains" Glacial Erratics): https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=3Ys7wjCz39E
Geology Brief No. 12 (Paraconformities and a Pair of Numpties): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq-SHBne-xU
Geology Brief No. 13 (Omphalos, or, Creationism's Most Embarrassing Secret): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa7U1OnTS0g
Geology Brief No. 14 (Large Igneous Provinces, or LIPs): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqdrntiq8U
Geology Brief No. 15 (When Did Life Appear on Earth?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndhmpzMLQcc
Geology Brief No. 16 (Diamonds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1_6iwT9tM
Geology Brief No. 17 (Giant Volcanic Calderas): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2k9lvhI8Ww
Geology Brief N. 18 (Don Patton and the Malachite Man): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yG1nOYPxhk
Geology Brief No. 19 (The Dolomite Problem): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zmSYIxwRyM
Geology Brief No. 20 (Giant Impacts Craters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hn78UKDqv0
Geology Brief No. 21 (Darwin and Hitler): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLoeSNa4TDg
Geology Brief No. 22 (The Fossil Record and Faunal Succession): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvG-wI4N-MU

Coal Seam Formation Mystery

Exploring the Nature of Wyoming | UWyo Extension 📤 9 years ago 2009-02-12

There are a few theories about how Wyoming's rich coal deposits were formed in the distant past. Coal seams in the Powder River Basin of Wyoming may have originated from raised bogs or other types of freshwater swamps.

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Creation Facts: Fossil Dating

Tribe Of Yisrael X 📤 3 years ago 2015-05-23

How accurate are the methods for dating fossils and ancient artifacts??

Polystrate Fossils, Moon Dust, and other creationist nonsense.

DonExodus2 📤 9 years ago 2009-05-11

Sources/links:
MacRae, Andrew, 1994. "Polystrate" tree fossils. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/trees.html

Birkeland, Bill, 2004, 27 Jan. Fossil soils (paleosols) at Joggins. http://www.evcforum.net/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000116.html#7

Matson, Dave E., 1994. How good are those young-earth arguments? http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-gc.html#G4a

Fossils in the Antarctic

Canadian Museum of Nature / Musée canadien de la nature 📤 7 years ago 2011-09-20

Natalia Rybczynski is a palaeobiologist at the Canadian Museum of Nature who studies mammal evolution. Follow her search for fossils with Carleton University students during the 2011 Students on Ice Antarctic expedition. The team visits Deception and Seymour Islands and find fossil evidence of changing environments.

See Natalia's 2007 scientific discovery of an extinct animal, Puijila darwini at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/canadanaturemuseum#p/a/2BE6109060DFC726/1/1hT8DtfriYU

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Fossil Mountain, Millard County, UT Lecture by Owen Nielsen

Jerry Finlinson 📤 4 years ago 2014-07-31

Fossil Mountain, Millard County UT, Owen Nielsen Geology Lecture. A description of the geological layers in the fossil mountain and a sample of the diverse fossils in the Kanosh shale layer. Written and narrated by Owen Nielsen of Great Basin Museum. Assisted by Linda Nielsen. Video by Kent Stewart. A description of the geological layers in Fossil Mountain. Shows a sample of the diverse fossils in the Kanosh shale layer.

10 Living Fossils

Epic Wildlife 📤 2 years ago 2016-08-09

From the rare deep sea goblin shark, to the tiny hula painted frog, here are 10 Living Fossils !

Fig Wasps -- Here’s an insect that suffered from a case of mistaken identity. In the 1920s, a fig wasp fossil dated 34 million years old was found, but incorrectly catalogued as an ant. When the fossil was re-analyzed in 2010

The Nautilus -- No, we’re not talking about Captain Nemo’s ship, or exercise equipment. This Nautilus is a marine mollusk that has basically stayed the same for the past half-billion years, give or take. These creatures first appeared during the late Cambrian period and later became a group of sea predators. They’re the last remaining cephalopods with a bony body structure that externalizes as a shell… unlike octopus and squid, their distant relatives. The nautilus is actually closer to cephalopods that first appeared 500 million years ago than the more modern creatures that showed up some 100 million years later

The Hoatzin (hwat-seen) -- These birds engender some debate because their evolutionary tree seems to be missing a few branches … so to speak. About the size of a pheasant, they usually have a total length of 26 inches and are usually found in swamps and mangroves of South America’s Amazon and Orinoco Delta. Debate about the animal stems in part from certain characteristics that aren’t found in other birds … the chicks of the Hoatzin have claws at the ends of their wings, which helps them to climb up and cling to trees. Because the creature is so distinct, it’s actually been given its own family. Genetic research conducted in 2015 revealed the Hoatzin to be the sole surviving member of birds that flew off in their own direction some 64 million years ago.

So we’ll admit it up front … this picture is photoshopped. The lady in the green pants has been seen in the same pose in that same exhibit with different animals digitally inserted in the display window. That said, it seems to be an alligator snapping turtle the lady is looking at. Maybe she’s fascinated by being face to face with a living fossil. With their beaklike jaws, spiked shells and thick scaled tails, they still look like prehistoric creatures … and are often referred to as ‘the dinosaurs of the turtle world.’ This reptile is one of the heaviest freshwater turtles on the planet, weighing around 176 lbs on average with a carapace, or shell length of 31 inches. The biggest-ever alligator snapping turtle was supposedly found in Kansas and weighed 403 lbs, but the claim was never verified. They’re one of North America’s largest freshwater turtles, with life spans up to 100 years! Given these animals have only one natural predator, the century-mark might be attainable. But that one predator is us. Humans capture these animals for their meat and shells … that has led to alligator snapping turtles being listed as a threatened species.

Goblin Shark -- No wonder they put a good, old-fashioned scare into people … Goblin Sharks are ancient deep sea creatures, the last remaining member of of a family around 125 million years feetold. It’s easily identified by its pink skin, long, flat snout, and its powerful jaws, which can essentially pop out of its mouth and tear into their prey with its razor sharp teeth. The whole process looks like something from one of those “Alien” movies. They stay shrouded in mystery, since they prefer ice cold waters at depths up to 4300 feet. Think you’d like to run into one?

Crocodilia (krok-a-dee-lee-ah) -- This is an order of mostly large, semiaquatic predatory reptiles that date back almost 84 million years ago to the late Cretaceous Period. As you might expect, this order includes crocodiles, alligators and various caiman (kay-man) families. The animals in this order are usually solidly built with elongated flattened snouts with ears, eyes and nostrils found at the tops of their heads. Other common characteristics include thick skin covered in scales, peg-like teeth and a powerful bite, and they’re largely carnivorous. Crocodilians can range in size from the smallest species, Cuvier’s Dwarf Caiman which grows under 5 feet long … to the largest species, the fearsome Saltwater Crocodile … which can measure up to 23 feet and weigh up to 2600 lbs. Of all living reptiles, this animal is the biggest. This apex predator is the most widely distributed of any modern croc, found from eastern India to southeast Asia to northern Australia. They’re considered the most dangerous living crocodilians to humans … and with the strongest bite force ever recorded, it’s no wonder why!

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Does Finding A Fossil Change The Mind Of A Creationist?

The Young Turks 📤 3 years ago 2015-05-29

Edgar Nernberg found fish fossils at a construction site that date back 60 million years old. However, Nernberg is a creationist and believes the world is only 6000 years old. Does this change his mind? Ben Mankiewicz (What The Flick?), Karomo Brown, and Ana Kasparian (The Point) hosts of The Young Turks discuss.

"An Alberta man who discovered a school of rare fossilized fish while digging up a Calgary basement believes the world was created by God a few thousand years ago.

It's for that reason Edgar Nernberg doesn't think the fossils could possibly be as old as paleontologists are estimating.

"I subscribe to the creationist position, and I believe they were laid down in Noah's flood, about 4,500 years ago. But we agree to disagree."

He's referring to Darla Zelenitsky, the University of Calgary paleontologist who was brought in to examine the five ancient fish.

She says they likely swam in waters about 60 million years ago, which is the age of the Paskapoo Formation, a sheet of rock that lies under the city."

Read more here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-creationist-discovers-rare-fish-fossils-in-basement-dig-1.3091266

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Wollemi Pine -- a living fossil

CMIcreationstation 📤 5 years ago 2013-03-05

When scientists announced the discovery of the Wollemi Pine in Australia, in 1994, it caused a sensation. Some reported that it was like finding a living dinosaur, because the tree was only known from fossils in 'Jurassic' rocks. That would make it extinct for 150 million years, by evolutionary reckoning.

Finds like this are actually quite common. When something that scientists thought became extinct millions of years ago is found alive, it's called a 'living fossil'. But 'living fossils' pose a problem for evolution—since the organism hasn't changed, it brings into question the supposed millions of years age as well as the very idea of evolution.
When a tree was planted in London, recently, Sir David Attenborough said:
'It is romantic, I think, that something has survived 200 million years unchanged'.
Perhaps he considers it romantic, but this observation makes the millions of years of evolution very hard to believe.

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Lepidodendron Clubmoss Tree Fossils, Dalry, Ayrshire

Roger Griffith 📤 1 year ago 2017-02-19

This collection of 400 million year old Clubmoss tree fossils was probably originally taken from a Glasgow quarry or much less likely from Saltcoats Harbour where at least 30 others are still located - they can easily be seen at low tide. The trees grew up to 100ft high. The roots or rhizomes were originally given the name 'Stigmaria' as it wasn't realised that they were from the same plant species.

Fossil Evidence of Catastrophism (Supporting Genesis Account)

Eric Holmberg 📤 5 years ago 2013-06-24

This DVD is available here: http://bit.ly/177ezEO

Dinosaurs, according to popular science, have been extinct for some 65 million years. But the Bible describes a creature, Leviathan, that sounds an awful lot like a dinosaur; one that lived contemporaneously with man. And then there are all the "legends" of dragons and other dinosaur-like creatures that pop up in the history of cultures all over the world.

Does the evidence concerning these fascinating creatures support the evolutionary, old-earth model...or does it point to the young-earth creationist position? You won't hear this in your public school textbooks, but the discovery of unfossilized dinosaur bones suggests that dinosaurs died out relatively recently. Fossil graveyards, petrified forests, and the rapid formation of coal all speak to the Genesis Flood and other post-flood catastrophes.

This video documentary, recorded on location in several fascinating parts of the world, explores this important subject. Featuring interviews with scientists on both sides of this issue, the viewer is taken on an exciting journey into the mysterious world of the "terrible lizards." Does the fossil evidence reveal gradual evolution...or did Leviathan leave his footprints on the sands of time relatively recently?

This film is perfect for the classroom, whether at home or away, and features three of the most distinguished scientists in the arena of young-earth creationism:

Dr. Steven Austin; Geologist, Institute for Creation Research
Dr. Andrew Snelling; Geologist, Creation Science Foundation, Brisbane, Australia
Dr. Gary Parker, Answers in Genesis

Marine Fossils on Mount Everest

CMIcreationstation 📤 2 years ago 2016-11-01

What do marine fossils on the top of Mount Everest tell us about the Biblical Flood? Well, we find fossils of marine creatures in limestone near the summit, which means that this area must have been under the sea in the past. Everyone agrees that the top of Everest was once under the sea.
However, many people do not associate these rocks and fossils with Noah's Flood because they think there is not enough water to cover the highest mountains. However, they are not considering how the Flood changed the earth's topography.
The mountain ranges formed at the end of the Flood. With vertical earth movements towards the end of the flood, the mountains rose and the water flowed off the continents into the newly formed oceans basins. Indeed, such mountains must have formed quickly and recently, otherwise they would have eroded as quickly as they formed.
That's why we have marine fossils at the tops of high mountains.
To find out more from Creation Ministries International visit our website Creation.com.

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World's largest fossil forest uncovered in Illinois

News Direct 📤 6 years ago 2012-05-02

Scientists have found a 307-million-year-old fossil forest beneath the Springfield coal area in Illinois. It is at least 50 times as extensive as the previous discovery, which is so far the largest fossil forest ever found. The fossil forest lies at 250 to 800 feet underground, and extends for up to 100 miles. The compacted remains of the forests are preserved above the coal seams, and the fossils can be seen in the mine ceiling. The study will help in predicting the effects of global warming today. Source: Sky News, BBC

Upside down geological column

CMIcreationstation 📤 2 years ago 2016-07-05

Did you know that part of the geological column is found upside-down in Pakistan? At the foot of the Karakorum Mountains, in the Salt Range Formation, scientists have discovered fossilized plants and insects. From an evolutionary perspective, these remains belong to the upper part of the geological column. However, this formation lies beneath Cambrian rocks, which are supposedly over 400 million years older. So why are the fossils of more complex life buried below fossils considered much more primitive? This is a vexing evolutionary problem. Discoveries such as these support the biblical version of earth history, whereby the geological column is primarily a consequence of the global flood and its aftermath. It is no surprise that there is some order in the fossil record, such as sea creatures buried beneath land creatures, and mobile creatures such as birds near the top. But, as the Salt Range Formation testifies, the ordered charts that adorn textbooks aren’t necessarily what we find in the field.

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J D Mitchell: Polystrate Fossils & Petrified Forests

Apologetics Forum of Snohomish County 📤 4 years ago 2014-12-14

Any fossil that crosses two or more sedimentary layers is called a poly (many) strate (strata) fossil. Polystrate fossils have been discovered all around the world and polystrate fossil trees are quite commonly found in coal mines. Other types of polystrate fossils can be found in various locations and situations of sedimentary strata.

These geological and paleontological evidences are compelling arguments against uniformitarianism and millions of years of earth history. The most plausible alternative explanation to the “deep time” secular view is that these fossils were rapidly buried, a concept that is in line with the biblical creationist view that most of the sedimentary layers of the world were laid down during the Genesis Flood at the time of Noah.

In this PowerPoint presentation by J.D. Mitchell, a number of examples of polystrate fossils will be examined including fossilized trees, complete forests, trace fossils and several kinds of animals. Possible explanations for these types of fossils found in thick as well as thin multi-layers are provided based upon biblical creationist presuppositions.

J.D. Mitchell is a registered professional engineer in Oregon and Washington and has a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Washington. He has also completed his Master of Biblical Studies in Biblical Creation Apologetics from Master's Graduate School of Divinity.

J.D. is Executive Director of the Institute for Creation Science of Oregon, and speaks and writes regarding the creation versus evolution controversy as a part of his creation science ministry (Creation Engineering Concepts).

Dinosaur skin rapid fossilization

Creation Ministries International 📤 6 years ago 2012-03-19

Normally, when an animal dies it decays quickly—the skin decays and the bones fall apart, or disarticulate.
Finding fossilized 'soft tissue' such as skin implies very rapid burial—before it decayed.
Describing a duck-billed dinosaur unearthed in South Dakota. One researcher said,
'You can see the individual scales ... Because of the presence of skin and the complete articulation of the animal it was obviously not killed and it was obviously not scavenged.'
A worldwide flood would rapidly bury animals—and rapidly buried animals (not buried slowly) are exactly what we see in the fossil record.

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Quick Granite

CMIcreationstation 📤 5 years ago 2013-03-07

People with granite bench tops in their kitchens are usually very proud of them, never failing to show them off to visitors. But that's not surprising—serving up dinner on a surface that was supposedly millions of years in the making carries a certain aura about it.

But in a recent paper, published in the Proceedings of the Geologists' Association, granite specialist John Clemens stated, 'just about everything that was taught as recently as ten years ago about granitic magmatism has been turned on its head'.

He then described how granites can form quickly. He concluded that granites belong with an increasing number of geological processes that were, 'catastrophic in their suddenness'.

This eliminates yet another reason not to believe the Bible's timescale.

While this is certainly a dramatically different view of how granites form, be sensitive when telling your friends with granite bench tops, because they might find this research pretty deflating.

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Coal and Oil Formation

Химия 📤 4 years ago 2014-07-25

Dino Fossil at 13,000 ft. in Antarctica

NephilimFree 📤 8 years ago 2010-09-14

New dinosaur fossil find is evidence that the mountains rose during the flood of Noah. Sauropods are not mountain climbing creatures. They are flat-footed.

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Polystrate Fossils -- evidence against millions of years